I'm a firm believer of it's comfortable use it. I prefer Msft due to my needs and its software base though a strong cases can be made for either Msft or Apple machines.
Though when it comes to hardware like an IPod with Itunes on any machine and the capability to sync music manually or automatically, contacts from Windows or Outlook, and Outlook Calendar, use the Ipod as disk, imo, nothing even comes close in portability and ease of use for those tasks for my comfort zone.
At least with Msn Premium she can have her own email address. Is this one of the reasons why you're interested in sync MSn with the Outlook Connector since OL doesn't provide rules for an http account ?
Lots of changes in the near future. Hope everything works out to your satisfaction.
I'll slip Bill a note at the next shareholder meeting that your still waiting for your phone call.
..winston
"LarryB" <***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:3B29F144-49CC-4696-969D-***@microsoft.com...
: Hi Winston,
:
: I imagine it's a pretty good guess, I've been afraid of just that
: eventuality! Especially with AOl, (yech), going "free" and MS talking about
: buying Yahoo. I guess that's progress, of sorts.
:
: I stay by the phone waiting for B. Gates to call and ask my opinion, but so
: far nothing. He must have misplaced my number somehow. :-))
:
: No, I use only one logon. My bride is NOT a computer person. She enjoys
: using email and limited internet surfing, but has zero interest in her own
: user account. I tried setting one up for her a couple of years back and she
: just wouldn't use it.
:
: Well, I will continue to use MSN until it goes the way of "spit"AOL"spit",
: and then look elsewhere.
:
: And in the meantime I will instead, continue to hope that it gets better,
: and that I'll llike it just as much as I do Vista and Office 2007!
:
: Sometimes I think that those of us who really like Micrsoft products are
: just as crazy as Apple/Mac followers. Now THERE'S a scary thought! :-)
:
: Thanks again for your feedback!
:
: Larry
:
: "...winston" wrote:
:
: > Larry,
: > This is only an opinion, but having used and seen the evolution of MSn software for 20+ yrs, if I were to hazard a guess MSn Explorer's future as a standalone browser in Vista may not be a long term offering in its current form. Especially with the variable and upcoming Windows Live HotMail, Desktop and Vista's Windows Mail upgrade/replacements.
: >
: > It's only a guess :)
: >
: >
: > Are you using separate logon profiles for the two users on Vista ?
: >
: > ..winston
: >
: > "LarryB" <***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:3E1ECC8F-DBB6-4864-8904-***@microsoft.com...
: > : Hi Winston,
: > :
: > : Thank you for your response. Yes, that's exactly how I installed MSN
: > : Premium 9.5 as well! So I shouldn't have any problems from that aspect.
: > :
: > : I did order a cd, they sent me a dialup version, I reordered and they just
: > : didn't send it, I gave up.
: > :
: > : I'm not quite sure what you mean with regards to the newsreader. I don't
: > : really have any problems with the MSN browser interface. In fact I prefer
: > : the MSN browser over IE7, AT&T/Yahoo, or Firefox. My wife likes it because
: > : she finds it easier to use than other browsers, especially the email.
: > :
: > : I think the MSN Premium email is the classiest, easiest to use email out
: > : there. That's why I want to make it the default email. When my wife clicks
: > : on an email link on the internet, and Outlook pops up, she can use it, but
: > : just, and she really doesn't like it.
: > :
: > : I have Outlook set to download email from 2 http accounts and one pop3
: > : account, and can then save/archive, and use with my other Office apps, the
: > : important stuff, and often when I'm in Outlook will respond to an email from
: > : there. But I would still like to be able to make MSN email my default.
: > :
: > : The loss of the Automatic Sign In feature of course is not a big deal, it
: > : just adds a couple of more clicks to getting online, but you know, a couple
: > : of clicks here, a couple of clicks there........ :-)
: > :
: > : I still think it was just easier for MSN to delete it as an option than to
: > : make it work with Vista. Oh well, maybe it will come back in a future update.
: > :
: > : The good news, as far as I'm concerned, is that a new Outlook Connector is
: > : on the way. The sooner the better!
: > :
: > : I must say, one of the surprising/disappointing things about this is the
: > : complete dearth of information from MSN regarding Vista. I would have
: > : thought they would have sent us an email, posted something on the homepage,
: > : SOMETHING to let us know what the status of MSN is with respect to Vista.
: > : They could have let us know what features we would lose, proper version to
: > : use, proper installation instructions, forthcoming updates/plans, etc. But
: > : nope, not a single word. As I say, disappointing.
: > :
: > : Anyway, thanks a lot for your response!
: > :
: > : Larry
: > :
: > : "...winston" wrote:
: > :
: > : > Larry,
: > : > Use of Windows Mail newsreader might be easier to manage than the web interface. The following link will setup this group automatically in Windows Mail. It will not interfere with the use of Office 2007 or Msn 9.5.
: > : > news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.msn.discussion
: > : >
: > : > To install MSn properly in Vista(and I've tried it a few ways by using pre Msn Vista images as a test bed) I've had most success with temporarily disabling the Firewall and AV(I am behind a router on a cable not dsl) and right clicking the install file and installing as an administrator.
: > : >
: > : > Automatic sign-in is not an option in Vista. The account in use is one of my ancient(circa 1995) accounts converted to http account(was pop3 dial up then converted to a senior AARP(no longer available)bring your own isp account which now falls under the Msn Premium branding.
: > : >
: > : > The download is the same software but one can order a cd here.
: > : > http://cdorder.msn.com/QueryAccount.aspx
: > : > Click on 'No, I do not have an account'
: > : > Enter requested data(name, address, phone number - all required though any name will do, e.g. Jesus Jones)
: > : > Click on the option 'Get MSn Premium and enhance your broadband connection' etc(i.e. **Do Not click on Get MSn9 Dialup)
: > : > Click Next etc to finalize and wait 7 ot 10 days.
: > : >
: > : > Can't offer any support on http synching with Outlook 2007 preferring to keep my Vista, PDA, and Office 2007 linked to a pop3 account instead of an MSn Explorer/MSn Premium. Hopefully the upcoming Connector will offer a solution.
: > : >
: > : > ..winston
: > : >
: > : >
: > : >
: > : >
: > : > "LarryB" <***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:69F81E9C-5269-488F-980E-***@microsoft.com...
: > : > : Hi Steve,
: > : > :
: > : > : I'm pretty much convinced now that these are not problems that I've created,
: > : > : but rather are problems created by MSN/Vista/Outlook 2007.
: > : > :
: > : > : Will just wait and see what shakes out.
: > : > :
: > : > : Thanks again for your feedback.
: > : > :
: > : > : Larry
: > : > :
: > : > : "StephenB" wrote:
: > : > :
: > : > : > LarryB <***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
: > : > : >
: > : > : > >Steve,
: > : > : > >
: > : > : > >Thanks for your reply!
: > : > : > >
: > : > : > >I'm using MSN 9.5 on Vista Ultimate with a dsl connection, and my user
: > : > : > >account is an administrator account.
: > : > : > >
: > : > : > >I did an uninstall and a clean reinstall, and there was no change, so I
: > : > : > >don't THINK that's the problem.
: > : > : > >
: > : > : > >Under XP, the MSN browser had a checkbox for "Sign me in automatically",
: > : > : > >which meant that a double click on the Butterfly would log you in and take
: > : > : > >you to your homepage. That option has disappeared under Vista.
: > : > : > >
: > : > : > >I seem to remember that XP had some sort of encryption or password service
: > : > : > >running under "Services", and if that was disabled so was automatic sign in.
: > : > : > >Just guessing, but I wonder if that service is either gone or changed in
: > : > : > >Vista and MSN 9.5 hasn't been updated accordingly.
: > : > : > >
: > : > : > >Great news on the coming version of Outlook Connector, thanks for that!
: > : > : > >
: > : > : > >It's possible that MSN 9.5 is graying out the current version of Outlook
: > : > : > >Connector because it just doesn't recognize Outlook 2007, so it's as if I
: > : > : > >just don't have Outlook?
: > : > : > >
: > : > : > >I'm a huge fan of MSN, been using it since 2003, and hope to see it grow.
: > : > : > >Means it'll stay around and I'll be able to continue using it! :-)
: > : > : > >
: > : > : > >Thanks again for your feedback.
: > : > : > >
: > : > : > >Larry
: > : > : > You're welcome, Larry.
: > : > : > As I said, I don't have an option for sign me in automatically for Premium, so
: > : > : > you could very well be correct. I honestly don't recall if that option existed
: > : > : > for me on XP.
: > : > : > Yes, it may be possible that the option is greyed out for that reason. Keep an
: > : > : > eye out for the new version, though. I am quite sure that it will be announced
: > : > : > in these newsgroups when it is available for download.
: > : > : > -steve
: > : > : > --
: > : > : > Stephen Boots
: > : > : > MVP Windows Live
: > : > : > Windows Live OneCare Forum Moderator
: > : > : > ***@mvps.org
: > : > : >
: > : >
: >