Installing New Live version on many computers

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Yaacov Klapisch

2008-07-02 08:59:21 UTC

I posted this message on microsoft.public.msn.messenger and then realised
this would be a better place since more activity.

Our users have MSN Live messenger version 8.1.
They don't have admin rights to install.
I would like to update to the latest version.
I looked for a full installation file and didn't find one. The installation
file is a small 2mb file that does a local download.
It will be very time consuming to install this way on over 100
workstations...
Does anyone know where I can download a full installation file?

...winston

2008-07-02 15:29:03 UTC

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The full executable(exe or msi) is not available from Microsoft.

If a machine already exists with Windows Live Messenger the Messenger and Sign-in Assistant Msi installation file can be found on
that machine in a hidden folder.

See the Dec. 08 entry on this site for the location and nomenclature(filename)
The Field Guide : Windows Live Applications MSI Installation Files
http://liveunplugged.spaces.live.com/?_c11_BlogPart_BlogPart=blogview&_c=BlogPart&partqs=cat%3dWindows%2bLive

If installing the Sign-in Assistant, run Microsoft Update to obtain the latest available update 5.0.742.2
--
...winston
ms-mvp mail

I posted this message on microsoft.public.msn.messenger and then realised this would be a better place since more activity.
Our users have MSN Live messenger version 8.1.
They don't have admin rights to install.
I would like to update to the latest version.
I looked for a full installation file and didn't find one. The installation
file is a small 2mb file that does a local download.
It will be very time consuming to install this way on over 100
workstations...
Does anyone know where I can download a full installation file?

PA Bear [MS MVP]

2008-07-02 19:37:43 UTC

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Guess what I found the other day?...

Download details: Windows Live Messenger 8.1 (admittedly it's v8.1.178.0)
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=d78f2ff1-79ea-4066-8ba0-ddbed94864fc
--
~PA Bear

Post by ...winston
The full executable(exe or msi) is not available from Microsoft.
If a machine already exists with Windows Live Messenger the Messenger and
Sign-in Assistant Msi installation file can be found on that machine in a
hidden folder.
See the Dec. 08 entry on this site for the location and
nomenclature(filename) The Field Guide : Windows Live Applications MSI
Installation Files
http://liveunplugged.spaces.live.com/?_c11_BlogPart_BlogPart=blogview&_c=BlogPart&partqs=cat%3dWindows%2bLive
If installing the Sign-in Assistant, run Microsoft Update to obtain the
latest available update 5.0.742.2

Post by Yaacov Klapisch
I posted this message on microsoft.public.msn.messenger and then realised
this would be a better place since more activity. Our users have MSN Live
messenger version 8.1.
They don't have admin rights to install.
I would like to update to the latest version.
I looked for a full installation file and didn't find one. The installation
file is a small 2mb file that does a local download.
It will be very time consuming to install this way on over 100
workstations...
Does anyone know where I can download a full installation file?

...winston

2008-07-03 01:20:30 UTC

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Still around, it was the transition product from MSn Messenger to Live. The last branded 'MSn' was 7.0.

A link for 8.1 and 7.0 can be found on the download site for latest Live Messenger 2008(version 8.5.x)
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=7A1AAE73-48CC-4F7A-B445-0487BD5E84EF&displaylang=en
--
...winston
ms-mvp mail

Post by PA Bear [MS MVP]
Guess what I found the other day?...
Download details: Windows Live Messenger 8.1 (admittedly it's v8.1.178.0)
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=d78f2ff1-79ea-4066-8ba0-ddbed94864fc
--
~PA Bear

PA Bear [MS MVP]

2008-07-03 03:36:50 UTC

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Thanks for that.

When I searched the Download Center page the other day for "Windows Live
Messenger," that was NOT among the results. ("Powered by Windows Live
Search" my sweet ___!)

Lurkers please note: That download is for Windows Live "All in One"
installer, not just Windows Live Messenger, so beware! Opt for a Custom
install so that you don't install anything you don't want to install (e.g.,
Windows Live Toolbar; Windows Live Writer).

Post by ...winston
Still around, it was the transition product from MSn Messenger to Live.
The
last branded 'MSn' was 7.0.
A link for 8.1 and 7.0 can be found on the download site for latest Live
Messenger 2008(version 8.5.x)
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=7A1AAE73-48CC-4F7A-B445-0487BD5E84EF&displaylang=en

...winston

2008-07-03 06:12:21 UTC

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Inline..
--
...winston
ms-mvp mail

Post by PA Bear [MS MVP]
Thanks for that.

yw.

Post by PA Bear [MS MVP]
When I searched the Download Center page the other day for "Windows Live
Messenger," that was NOT among the results. ("Powered by Windows Live
Search" my sweet ___!)
Lurkers please note: That download is for Windows Live "All in One" installer, not just Windows Live Messenger, so beware! Opt
for a Custom install so that you don't install anything you don't want to install (e.g., Windows Live Toolbar; Windows Live
Writer).

Yes..it is the WLInstaller.exe, iirc, the process it follows upon execution.
1. Accept agreement
2. Prompt with two options(Make Live Search Default and Collect Install Data for Msft)
3. Prompt for the Live Apps not currently installed, note Messenger is pre-selected)
4. Download the selected application installer(s)for each app selected
5. Install the app.
6. Prompt when Done

Note: Toolbar and Family Safety are always unchecked.

Yaacov Klapisch

2008-07-03 11:21:15 UTC

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Thanks for the reply
You got me wrong.
The link you giver here is for 8.1.0...
There is already a version 8.5 and all my users are pressuring to get it.
This new version is only local download.
Jonathan Kay on his website gives a link for the full download but it is an
unattended setup where you can't select any options/component

Greetings,
http://messenger.jonathankay.com/redir/wlm85.asp
--
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger
MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
MessengerGeek Blog: http://www.messengergeek.com
Messenger Resources: http://messenger.jonathankay.com
(c) 2008 Jonathan Kay - If redistributing, you must include this signature
or citation
Inline..
--
...winston
ms-mvp mail

Post by PA Bear [MS MVP]
Thanks for that.

yw.

Post by PA Bear [MS MVP]
When I searched the Download Center page the other day for "Windows Live
Messenger," that was NOT among the results. ("Powered by Windows Live
Search" my sweet ___!)
Lurkers please note: That download is for Windows Live "All in One"
installer, not just Windows Live Messenger, so beware! Opt
for a Custom install so that you don't install anything you don't want to
install (e.g., Windows Live Toolbar; Windows Live
Writer).

Yes..it is the WLInstaller.exe, iirc, the process it follows upon execution.
1. Accept agreement
2. Prompt with two options(Make Live Search Default and Collect Install Data for Msft)
3. Prompt for the Live Apps not currently installed, note Messenger is pre-selected)
4. Download the selected application installer(s)for each app selected
5. Install the app.
6. Prompt when Done
Note: Toolbar and Family Safety are always unchecked.

PA Bear [MS MVP]

2008-07-03 15:11:09 UTC

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[Crossposted to MSN Discussion, MSN Messenger, & Windows Live Messenger
newsgroups]

@Jonathan: I'm a tad concerned about "From: irc.msgplus.net"

Is Messenger Plus [1] Extension bundled in this installer for WLMessenger
v8.5.x?
====================
[1] cf. http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/answers/43.html

http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/msgplus.net?ref=safesearch&aff_id=0&premium=false&suite=false&client_ver=2.6.0.6261&locale=en-US
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

Post by Yaacov Klapisch
Thanks for the reply
You got me wrong.
The link you giver here is for 8.1.0...
There is already a version 8.5 and all my users are pressuring to get it.
This new version is only local download.
Jonathan Kay on his website gives a link for the full download but it is an
unattended setup where you can't select any options/component

Post by PA Bear [MS MVP]
Thanks for that.

yw.

Post by PA Bear [MS MVP]
When I searched the Download Center page the other day for "Windows Live
Messenger," that was NOT among the results. ("Powered by Windows Live
Search" my sweet ___!)
Lurkers please note: That download is for Windows Live "All in One"
installer, not just Windows Live Messenger, so beware! Opt
for a Custom install so that you don't install anything you don't want to
install (e.g., Windows Live Toolbar; Windows Live
Writer).

Yes..it is the WLInstaller.exe, iirc, the process it follows upon execution.
1. Accept agreement
2. Prompt with two options(Make Live Search Default and Collect Install Data for Msft)
3. Prompt for the Live Apps not currently installed, note Messenger is pre-selected)
4. Download the selected application installer(s)for each app selected
5. Install the app.
6. Prompt when Done
Note: Toolbar and Family Safety are always unchecked.

Jonathan Kay [MVP]

2008-07-04 03:43:27 UTC

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Hi,

No. irc.msgplus.net is just webspace given to me.
--
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger
MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
MessengerGeek Blog: http://www.messengergeek.com
Messenger Resources: http://messenger.jonathankay.com
(c) 2008 Jonathan Kay - If redistributing, you must include this signature or citation
--

[Crossposted to MSN Discussion, MSN Messenger, & Windows Live Messenger newsgroups]
@Jonathan: I'm a tad concerned about "From: irc.msgplus.net"
Is Messenger Plus [1] Extension bundled in this installer for WLMessenger v8.5.x?
====================
[1] cf. http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/answers/43.html
http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/msgplus.net?ref=safesearch&aff_id=0&premium=false&suite=false&client_ver=2.6.0.6261&locale=en-US
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

Post by PA Bear [MS MVP]
Thanks for that.

yw.

Post by PA Bear [MS MVP]
When I searched the Download Center page the other day for "Windows Live
Messenger," that was NOT among the results. ("Powered by Windows Live
Search" my sweet ___!)
Lurkers please note: That download is for Windows Live "All in One"
installer, not just Windows Live Messenger, so beware! Opt
for a Custom install so that you don't install anything you don't want to
install (e.g., Windows Live Toolbar; Windows Live
Writer).

Yes..it is the WLInstaller.exe, iirc, the process it follows upon execution.
1. Accept agreement
2. Prompt with two options(Make Live Search Default and Collect Install Data for Msft)
3. Prompt for the Live Apps not currently installed, note Messenger is pre-selected)
4. Download the selected application installer(s)for each app selected
5. Install the app.
6. Prompt when Done
Note: Toolbar and Family Safety are always unchecked.

PA Bear [MS MVP]

2008-07-04 07:33:29 UTC

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Thanks! You had me worried there.

Post by Jonathan Kay [MVP]
Hi,
No. irc.msgplus.net is just webspace given to me.
--
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger
MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
MessengerGeek Blog: http://www.messengergeek.com
Messenger Resources: http://messenger.jonathankay.com
(c) 2008 Jonathan Kay - If redistributing, you must include this signature or citation

Post by PA Bear [MS MVP]
[Crossposted to MSN Discussion, MSN Messenger, & Windows Live Messenger
Is Messenger Plus [1] Extension bundled in this installer for WLMessenger
v8.5.x? ====================
[1] cf. http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/answers/43.html
http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/msgplus.net?ref=safesearch&aff_id=0&premium=false&suite=false&client_ver=2.6.0.6261&locale=en-US
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

Post by Yaacov Klapisch
Thanks for the reply
You got me wrong.
The link you giver here is for 8.1.0...
There is already a version 8.5 and all my users are pressuring to get it.
This new version is only local download.
Jonathan Kay on his website gives a link for the full download but it is
an unattended setup where you can't select any options/component

Greetings,
http://messenger.jonathankay.com/redir/wlm85.asp
--
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger
MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
MessengerGeek Blog: http://www.messengergeek.com
Messenger Resources: http://messenger.jonathankay.com
(c) 2008 Jonathan Kay - If redistributing, you must include this
signature or citation
Inline..
--
...winston
ms-mvp mail

Post by PA Bear [MS MVP]
Thanks for that.

yw.

Post by PA Bear [MS MVP]
When I searched the Download Center page the other day for "Windows Live
Messenger," that was NOT among the results. ("Powered by Windows Live
Search" my sweet ___!)
Lurkers please note: That download is for Windows Live "All in One"
installer, not just Windows Live Messenger, so beware! Opt
for a Custom install so that you don't install anything you don't want
to install (e.g., Windows Live Toolbar; Windows Live
Writer).

Yes..it is the WLInstaller.exe, iirc, the process it follows upon execution.
1. Accept agreement
2. Prompt with two options(Make Live Search Default and Collect Install
Data for Msft)
3. Prompt for the Live Apps not currently installed, note Messenger is pre-selected)
4. Download the selected application installer(s)for each app selected
5. Install the app.
6. Prompt when Done
Note: Toolbar and Family Safety are always unchecked.

Power Point

2009-04-08 19:58:15 UTC

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Subject: Re: (KB 947449) installed 3 days in a row? 4/7/2009 8:49 AM PST

By: PA Bear [MS MVP] In: microsoft.public.windowsupdate,
microsoft.public.windows.server.update_services

According to WLMessenger MVP Jonathan Kay, the following Command removes
WLSign-in Assistant:

msiexec /x {45338B07-A236-4270-9A77-EBB4115517B5}
--
~PA Bear

Larry i tried your tip!!! THANKS :)
This is what i have done and seems to have work....but will see by our
users
resonse. Now we need script to remove from all 300 pc's.
We found that the updates kb947449 (2008) new version 967912 (2009)
C:\WINDOWS\SoftwareDistribution we deleted file "DataStore.edb" then was
not prompted any more. I will see if we get anymore complaints

My first question, of course, would be: Do you have the Windows Live
Sign-In Assistant installed on your machines?
My second question would be: What *version* of the Windows Live Sign-In
Assistant is installed?

I have several users with the same problem on my network; me
included. I don't remember installing Windows Live Sign-In Assistant,
but it is on my workstation. Version 5.000.818.6. We're running
Windows XP SP2.

PA Bear [MS MVP]

2009-04-08 20:12:57 UTC

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[X-post to MSN Discussion, MSN Messenger, WL Messenger, WSUS, and WU
newsgroups]

Repost:

According to WLMessenger MVP Jonathan Kay, the following Command removes
WLSign-in Assistant:

msiexec /x {45338B07-A236-4270-9A77-EBB4115517B5}
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002

Post by Power Point
Subject: Re: (KB 947449) installed 3 days in a row? 4/7/2009 8:49 AM PST
By: PA Bear [MS MVP] In: microsoft.public.windowsupdate,
microsoft.public.windows.server.update_services
According to WLMessenger MVP Jonathan Kay, the following Command removes
msiexec /x {45338B07-A236-4270-9A77-EBB4115517B5}

b***@mail2black.com

2009-04-16 12:43:32 UTC

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Post by Power Point
According to WLMessenger MVP Jonathan Kay, the following Command removes
msiexec /x {45338B07-A236-4270-9A77-EBB4115517B5}
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002

That's not the same version installed on my network. I would have to
use: msiexec /x {9422C8EA-B0C6-4197-B8FC-DC797658CA00}
Maybe someone else will need this one.

PA Bear [MS MVP]

2009-04-16 14:13:15 UTC

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Thanks for that!

Post by b***@mail2black.com

That's not the same version installed on my network. I would have to
use: msiexec /x {9422C8EA-B0C6-4197-B8FC-DC797658CA00}
Maybe someone else will need this one.

...winston

2009-04-09 00:02:40 UTC

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That should only be deployed through MU if using an older version of WLMail, Msgr, PhotoGallery etc..

You might wish to upgrade to the latest version(s) of the WL Essentials, then remove the Sign-in assistant if that is your intent.
--
...winston
ms-mvp mail

شيرزاد

2009-09-19 14:51:03 UTC

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Post by ...winston
That should only be deployed through MU if using an older version of WLMail, Msgr, PhotoGallery etc..
You might wish to upgrade to the latest version(s) of the WL Essentials, then remove the Sign-in assistant if that is your intent.
--
...winston
ms-mvp mail

Yaacov Klapisch

2008-07-03 11:26:37 UTC

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Thanks for the prompt reply.
I have downloaded this file and tried to install it on my computer.
Tell me if I am wrong: It does an unattended install where I cannot select
any options...
Is there a way to select the installation options/components of the setup?
I don't want any of the additional componants like Live Installer, Live
Toolbar, Live Sign-in etc... to be installed on the workstations.

Thanks

Post by Yaacov Klapisch
Our users have MSN Live messenger version 8.1.
They don't have admin rights to install.
I would like to update to the latest version.
I looked for a full installation file and didn't find one. The
installation file is a small 2mb file that does a local download.
It will be very time consuming to install this way on over 100
workstations...
Does anyone know where I can download a full installation file?

Jonathan Kay [MVP]

2008-07-04 03:42:23 UTC

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There are no options. The other "options" you're thinking of are separate MSIs.
--
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger
MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
MessengerGeek Blog: http://www.messengergeek.com
Messenger Resources: http://messenger.jonathankay.com
(c) 2008 Jonathan Kay - If redistributing, you must include this signature or citation
--

Post by Yaacov Klapisch
Thanks for the prompt reply.
I have downloaded this file and tried to install it on my computer.
Tell me if I am wrong: It does an unattended install where I cannot select any options...
Is there a way to select the installation options/components of the setup?
I don't want any of the additional componants like Live Installer, Live Toolbar, Live
Sign-in etc... to be installed on the workstations.
Thanks

Post by Yaacov Klapisch
Our users have MSN Live messenger version 8.1.
They don't have admin rights to install.
I would like to update to the latest version.
I looked for a full installation file and didn't find one. The installation file is a
small 2mb file that does a local download.
It will be very time consuming to install this way on over 100 workstations...
Does anyone know where I can download a full installation file?

camilacamila

2009-10-01 01:22:03 UTC

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Post by Yaacov Klapisch
I posted this message on microsoft.public.msn.messenger and then realised
this would be a better place since more activity.
Our users have MSN Live messenger version 8.1.
They don't have admin rights to install.
I would like to update to the latest version.
I looked for a full installation file and didn't find one. The installation
file is a small 2mb file that does a local download.
It will be very time consuming to install this way on over 100
workstations...
Does anyone know where I can download a full installation file?

jyujyujyj

2009-11-12 16:24:05 UTC

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Post by Yaacov Klapisch
I posted this message on microsoft.public.msn.messenger and then realised
this would be a better place since more activity.
Our users have MSN Live messenger version 8.1.
They don't have admin rights to install.
I would like to update to the latest version.
I looked for a full installation file and didn't find one. The installation
file is a small 2mb file that does a local download.
It will be very time consuming to install this way on over 100
workstations...
Does anyone know where I can download a full installation file?

aisha123456

2010-01-22 12:08:01 UTC

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Post by Yaacov Klapisch
I posted this message on microsoft.public.msn.messenger and then realised
this would be a better place since more activity.
Our users have MSN Live messenger version 8.1.
They don't have admin rights to install.
I would like to update to the latest version.
I looked for a full installation file and didn't find one. The installation
file is a small 2mb file that does a local download.
It will be very time consuming to install this way on over 100
workstations...
Does anyone know where I can download a full installation file?

josue

2010-04-19 23:26:01 UTC

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Post by Yaacov Klapisch
I posted this message on microsoft.public.msn.messenger and then realised
this would be a better place since more activity.
Our users have MSN Live messenger version 8.1.
They don't have admin rights to install.
I would like to update to the latest version.
I looked for a full installation file and didn't find one. The installation
file is a small 2mb file that does a local download.
It will be very time consuming to install this way on over 100
workstations...
Does anyone know where I can download a full installation file?