Thanks, Earle. We are a bunch of volunteers, which the paper has arranged to
have addresses like ***@news.co.uk, ***@news.co.uk and so on. The mail
server for news.co.uk is farmed out, and its only function is to redirect
mail to the volunteers' actual addresses.
I asked that question specifically (whether it's the forwarding service
that's got itself into Hotmail's black book), but Hotmail say it's the
originating server that's at fault. I don't believe them (the ones I know
about are leading ISPs in England who take antispam procedures very
seriously), so there's something wrong with the way Hotmail authenticates
messages taking a dog-leg via another address. Just so you - or anyone else
who's watching - can see what's happening, here are the headers of one of
the bounced messages:
Return-path: <***@tiscali.co.uk>
Received: from [212.74.100.48] (helo=mk-filter-1-a-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com)
by web.dsvr.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.62)
(envelope-from <***@tiscali.co.uk>)
id 1JQ7Bo-0002v8-Hi
for ***@news.co.uk; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 20:29:44 +0000
X-Trace:
663824347/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/WEBB2C/$ALLOWED_RELAY/ALLOWED-B2C-WEBMAIL/212.74.100.145
X-SBRS: None
X-RemoteIP: 212.74.100.145
X-IP-MAIL-FROM: ***@tiscali.co.uk
X-IP-Webmail: TRUE
X-IP-BHB: Once
X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true
X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAKqEtUfUSmSR/2dsb2JhbACBWa0X
Received: from mail-5.uk.tiscali.com (HELO mail-5-uk-priv.mail.tiscali.sys)
([212.74.100.145])
by websmtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 15 Feb 2008 20:29:44 +0000
Received: from ps29 (10.39.75.144) by mail-5-uk-priv.mail.tiscali.sys
(7.3.132)
id 4794CDE700206E18 for ***@news.co.uk; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 21:29:43
+0100
Message-ID: <***@ps29>
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 21:29:43 +0100 (GMT+01:00)
From: "***@tiscali.co.uk" <***@tiscali.co.uk>
Reply-To: "***@tiscali.co.uk" <***@tiscali.co.uk>
To: ***@news.co.uk
Then Hotmail adds this at the top:
***@msn.com
(generated from ***@news.co.uk)
SMTP error from remote mail server after MAIL FROM:<***@tiscali.co.uk>
SIZE=2898:
host mx4.hotmail.com [65.54.245.104]: 550 SC-001 Mail rejected by
Windows Live Hotmail for policy reasons. Reasons for rejection may be
related to content with spam-like characteristics or IP/domain reputation
problems. If you are not an email/network admin please contact your
E-mail/Internet Service Provider for help. Email/network admins, please
visit http://postmaster.live.com for email delivery information and support.
Other than using a Gmail or Yahoo address instead of MSN, I don't know where
to go from here and it's my deadline on Friday!
--
Noel
Post by Earle HortonI didn't get the part about mail being "diverted by a mail hosting company
to the msn.com address". Is the address that is printed in the paper an
seem to infer? The problem could be between your "mail hosting company"
and msn.com. Perhaps msn is rejecting your forwarder for "policy
reasons". It could even be that your "mail hosting company" is rejecting
email. If it is indeed msn.com that is rejecting a number of different
ISPs, this seems unlikely but the only way to fix it is to get each
This does come up here from time to time.
Saludos,
Earle
Post by IldhundI have an msn.com address that I use solely for stuff related to my job
as editor of a small community newspaper. The editor's address is
published in every issue and cannot be changed without a lot of fuss.
Mail to this address is diverted by a mail hosting company to the msn.com
address.
A few weeks ago, one of my colleagues started receiving non-delivery
reports for mail addressed to editor, with the "550 - policy reasons"
explanation. Now, no mail is getting through to the msn.com address at
all, regardless of the sender's domain. I have raised a support ticket;
the only suggestion made is for me to persuade "my" ISP to contact
others used by people who try to send messages to me.
Does anyone have any idea why this is happening? and, more importantly,
how to put it right?
--
Noel